Gregory Ovide Versus Erica Rivers

GREGORY OVIDE NO. 24-CA-140

VERSUS FIFTH CIRCUIT

ERICA RIVERS COURT OF APPEAL

STATE OF LOUISIANA

ON APPEAL FROM THE TWENTY-FOURTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT
PARISH OF JEFFERSON, STATE OF LOUISIANA
NO. 847-030, DIVISION "G"
HONORABLE E. ADRIAN ADAMS, JUDGE PRESIDING

October 16, 2024

SCOTT U. SCHLEGEL
JUDGE

Panel composed of Judges Jude G. Gravois,
John J. Molaison, Jr., and Scott U. Schlegel

AFFIRMED
SUS
JGG

MOLAISON, J., CONCURS WITH REASONS
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COUNSEL FOR DEFENDANT/APPELLANT,
ERICA RIVERS
J. Craig Diamond

SCHLEGEL, J.

Appellant, Erica Rivers, appeals the trial court’s judgment denying her

request to relocate her three minor children with Gregory Ovide from Jefferson

Parish, Louisiana to Hoover, Alabama. For the following reasons, we affirm the

judgment of the trial court.

Procedural History

Ms. Rivers is a United States Army veteran who served in Baghdad, Iraq.

As a result of injuries and post-traumatic stress-disorder (PTSD), Ms. Rivers

receives military disability. Ms. Rivers moved to the New Orleans area for

employment in 2013. After meeting Mr. Ovide, the parties had three children: I.O.

(D.O.B. 2016), G.O. (D.O.B. 2017), and E.O. (D.O.B. 2021). Sometime in August

2023, a few days into the 2023-24 school year, Ms. Rivers left Jefferson Parish,

Louisiana with the children and relocated with them to Hoover, Alabama. Ms.

Rivers contends that she had previously informed Mr. Ovide that she planned to

leave Jefferson Parish, Louisiana and relocate to Hoover, Alabama. However, Mr.

Ovide testified that he was unaware of the relocation before it occurred, and did

not consent to the relocation.

Mr. Ovide filed a petition for domiciliary custody on September 11, 2023,

seeking shared legal custody of the children and requesting that they be returned to

Louisiana. Ms. Rivers denied the allegations of the petition. Following a hearing

on October 24, 2023, the hearing officer recommended that the children be

returned to the Greater New Orleans area by December 20, 2023. The hearing

officer further recommended that if Ms. Rivers decided to return with the children,

she would be designated as domiciliary parent, but if not, then Mr. Ovide would be

designated as domiciliary parent. A judgment from the hearing was entered on

November 7, 2023. Ms. Rivers timely objected to the hearing officer’s

recommendation that she should be required to return the children to Louisiana.

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On December 18, 2023, the parties appeared before the trial court for a

hearing as to relocation of the children. The trial court issued written reasons and a

judgment on January 19, 2024, in favor of Mr. Ovide and against Ms. Rivers, and

ordered that the children be immediately returned to the Greater New Orleans area

no later than January 24, 2024.

Factual History

Around the time of the birth of their first child, I.O., in 2016, the parties

purchased a home in Marrero, Louisiana. The home was in the name of Ms.

Rivers because her credit was good, but Mr. Ovide provided the down payment.

At the hearing before the trial court, Ms. Rivers testified that the school district

near the home was not good, and did not have many activities for the children. Ms.

Rivers testified that while she was in Louisiana, she mainly took care of the

children. She also had side jobs and received military disability pay from the

Veterans Administration. She stated that when she and Mr. Ovide lived together,

he had a distant relationship with the children in that “[e]ven though he lived in the

home, he was not there in the home.” He did not help with bathing, cooking for

them, or interacting with them. Ms. Rivers indicated that Mr. Ovide was violent,

and that the violence escalated after he moved out. Their relationship ended

around the time of E.O.’s birth, when Mr. Rivers moved out. She explained that

she did not know why, but in April (2023), Mr. Ovide was angry at G.O. and was

hitting him over and over with a shoe. She had to cover up G.O., and then Mr.

Ovide started hitting her too. She said Mr. Ovide wasn’t physical every time. But

when he had the children and brought them back, sometimes they would be crying

and saying “Daddy hit me or Daddy’s mean to me.”

Ms. Rivers acknowledges that she did not provide written notice about the

relocation, but testified that she told Mr. Ovide of her proposed relocation of the

children in March 2023 and that he agreed at the time. She stated that there were

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more educational opportunities for the children in Alabama and that she had

already enrolled her oldest child in a top-rated school in Hoover, which also offers

art, music, and multiple activities. She further testified that she is from Hoover and

has family there. She has no family in New Orleans and she and the children need

emotional support. Ms. Rivers also found a program at the VA in Hoover for

herself, and a corporate fellowship as a data analyst, which is a financial

opportunity she did not have in Louisiana. Ms. Rivers testified that her life is

100% better in Hoover, considering the family support system for herself and the

children, emotional support, educational opportunities, financial opportunities for

herself, and the neighborhoods and top-rated schools. Before the move, she and

Mr. Ovide had informal visitation. Mr. Ovide would see the children every other

weekend for maybe an hour or two – he would take them to the store for an hour or

so to buy toys, or candy, and then he would return with them. They did not ever

see him more than one day in a row.

Ms. Rivers testified that she moved to Hoover on August 18, 2023. When

she moved, Mr. Ovide helped her move furniture out of the home in Marrero and

into a storage facility and even recommended a real estate agent for her to sell the

Marrero home, all without objecting. She testified that she only ever heard that he

disagreed with the relocation when she was served with the custody paperwork.

Ms. Rivers stated that Mr. Ovide even sent money to Alabama for the children to

buy candy and toys without objecting to their being in Alabama. Ms. Rivers

testified that she never informed Mr. Ovide that he could not visit the children after

she moved. Ms. Rivers pointed out that by having overnight visitation, Mr. Ovide

would have more time with them than he did before the move. Ms. Rivers also

testified that the children are excited to be in Alabama and like it there.

After she was served with notice of his custody paperwork on September 24,

2023, Ms. Rivers tried to communicate with Mr. Ovide about visitation, including

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texting him to work on setting up visitation. She said she sent him information via

Our Family Wizard about a visitation with him and the children for Thanksgiving

2023. She also testified that she drove the children to the designated meeting spot

in the judgment (about halfway between the two locations) for him to take the

children for a seven-day holiday, but Mr. Ovide did not show up or respond to the

message she sent him. She said he has never gotten on the Our Family Wizard

app.

Mr. Ovide also took the stand at the hearing on December 18, 2023. He

testified that he did not know that Ms. Rivers was leaving with the children before

the move. She just called him while he was at work and told him she was leaving

with the children. He stated that with her PTSD, she would say things such as

“we’re going to move to China, we’re going to leave you and move to Russia.” He

thought she was living off the money he gave her, and did not have enough money

to move.

Mr. Ovide is a self-employed tattoo artist and lives with his grandmother in

a four-bedroom home that is also shared with his uncle. He stated that before the

children moved to Alabama, he brought them to school every morning and picked

them up if Ms. Rivers could not pick them up. He would take them to the zoo,

aquarium, or wherever they wanted to go “pretty much every weekend.” He stated

that Ms. Rivers did not contact him regarding the Thanksgiving visit, and he did

not know he was supposed to pick up the kids for the Thanksgiving visit.

Mr. Ovide also testified that he was unable to communicate with the children

after they left for Alabama, and that Ms. Rivers denied him access to the children.

He said he had yet to talk to I.O., or the youngest child, E.O. He said that he

stopped calling to speak to the children because he did not want it to seem as if he

was harassing her. He wanted to let the court do what it was going to do.

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According to Mr. Ovide, it is about five and a half hours to Ms. Rivers’

place in Hoover, so even if Ms. Rivers met him halfway, two and a half hours is

too long. He does not like to travel and would be paranoid thinking about getting

into an accident. The only time he leaves New Orleans is for a hurricane. He

agreed that life in Hoover sounds good for the children, except that he is not in

their lives. He would not be able to participant in parent-teacher conferences, field

trips, and similar things. He has family nearby, including his mother, two

grandmothers, seven sisters, a father, and cousins. He thinks it is in the children’s

best interest for them to move back to Marrero because the children need their

father in their lives.

Law and Discussion

Ms. Rivers contends that the trial court abused its discretion in ordering the

children to return to Louisiana to live because she relocated the children in good

faith, and relocation is in the best interest of the children.

A trial court’s determination in a relocation matter is entitled to great weight

and will not be overturned on appeal absent a clear showing of abuse of discretion.

Gathen v. Gathen, 10-2312 (La. 5/10/11), 66 So.3d 1, 8; Duerson v. Duerson, 23-

311 (La. App. 5 Cir. 12/20/23), 379 So.3d 742, 753; Cueva v. Gaddis, 10-981 (La.

App. 5 Cir. 5/24/11), 66 So.3d 1134, 1140.

In this case, the trial court held a hearing, listened to witness testimony, and

considered exhibits submitted by the parties. The trial court adopted the hearing

officer’s report after hearing extensive argument by counsel. The trial court found

that it was not in the best interest of the children to allow Ms. Rivers to relocate the

children to Alabama and provided extensive reasons in its judgment.

Written Notice of Proposed Relocation

The trial court found that Ms. Rivers did not adhere to the notice

requirements of relocation before moving the children to Alabama.

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Generally, La. R.S. 9:355.4 and 9:355.5 require the parent who is proposing

to relocate the child to notify the other parent of the proposed relocation, including

written notice by registered or certified mail. La. R.S. 9:355.6 further provides:

The court may consider a failure to provide notice of a proposed
relocation of a child as:
(1) A factor in making its determination regarding the relocation of a
child.
(2) A basis for ordering the return of the child if the relocation has
taken place without notice or court authorization.
(3) Sufficient cause to order the person proposing relocation to pay
reasonable expenses incurred by the person objecting to the relocation.

(Emphasis added). La. R.S. 9:355.6 allows the failure to provide notice to be a

factor to be considered by the trial court.

The trial court considered the failure of Ms. Rivers to provide written notice

of her intention to relocate the children as required by La. R.S. 9:355.5, including

the conflicting testimony from Ms. Rivers and Mr. Ovide on this point. Ms. Rivers

testified that she notified Mr. Ovide before the move, he did not object, and in fact

helped her move. In contrast, Mr. Ovide testified that she did not notify him ahead

of time and would frequently say things to the effect that she was leaving. He

attributed it to her PTSD. La. R.S. 9:355.6 permits the failure to provide written

notice to be a factor that the trial court consider. The trial court appropriately

considered this as a factor. Ms. Rivers’ argument on this point is without merit.

Good Faith and Best Interest of the Children

A person proposing relocation has the burden of proof that the proposed

relocation is made in good faith and is in the best interest of the child. La. R.S.

9:355.10; Hernandez v. Jenkins, 12-2756 (La. 6/21/13), 122 So.3d 524, 528;

Curole v. Curole, 02-1891 (La.10/15/02), 828 So.2d 1094, 1097. Therefore, Ms.

Rivers bears the burden of proving that her request is in good faith and is in the

best interest of the children.

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The trial court found that Ms. Rivers proposed the move in good faith. We

find no abuse of discretion in this finding. Next, we consider La. R.S.

9:355.14(A), which sets forth the twelve factors that the court must consider in

determining whether the proposed relocation is in the best interest of the child. 1

The twelve factors for the court to consider when deciding whether to grant

a relocation are set forth in La. R.S. 9:355.14:

A. In reaching its decision regarding a proposed relocation, the court
shall consider all relevant factors in determining whether relocation is in the
best interest of the child, including the following:
(1) The nature, quality, extent of involvement, and duration of the
relationship of the child with the person proposing relocation and with the
non-relocating person, siblings, and other significant persons in the child’s
life.
(2) The age, developmental stage, needs of the child, and the likely
impact the relocation will have on the child’s physical, educational, and
emotional development.
(3) The feasibility of preserving a good relationship between the non-
relocating person and the child through suitable physical custody or
visitation arrangements, considering the logistics and financial
circumstances of the parties.
(4) The child’s views about the proposed relocation, taking into
consideration the age and maturity of the child.
(5) Whether there is an established pattern of conduct by either the
person seeking or the person opposing the relocation, either to promote or
thwart the relationship of the child and the other party.
(6) How the relocation of the child will affect the general quality of
life for the child, including but not limited to financial or emotional benefit
and educational opportunity.
(7) The reasons of each person for seeking or opposing the relocation.
(8) The current employment and economic circumstances of each
person and how the proposed relocation may affect the circumstances of the
child.
(9) The extent to which the objecting person has fulfilled his financial
obligations to the person seeking relocation, including child support, spousal
support, and community property, and alimentary obligations.
(10) The feasibility of a relocation by the objecting person.
(11) Any history of substance abuse, harassment, or violence by either
the person seeking or the person opposing relocation, including a
consideration of the severity of the conduct and the failure or success of any
attempts at rehabilitation.
(12) Any other factors affecting the best interest of the child.

1
This statute was previously numbered as La. R.S. 9:355.12, but was amended and renumbered to La.
R.S. 9:355.14 in 2012. The amendment is not applicable to the instant case. See Hernandez, 122 So.3d at
529 n.4.

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The trial court considered all twelve factors in La. R.S. 9:355.14 involving

relocation, and the best interest of the children test set forth in La. C.C. art. 134.

There is no requirement that the court give preferential consideration to any factor.

Hernandez, 122 So.3d at 528–29; Gray v. Gray, 11-548 (La. 7/1/11), 65 So.3d

1247, 1255. When the trial court has considered the factors listed under La. R.S.

9:355.14(A) in determining whether relocation is in the best interest of the child,

the court’s determination is reviewed for abuse of discretion. Hernandez, 122

So.3d at 529; Gathen v. Gathen, 66 So.3d at 9; Curole, 828 So.2d at 1096;

Duerson, 379 So.3d at 753.

Factors 1 and 2

The trial court recognized that the parents resided together for a time and

that during that time the children were consistently with both parents on an

everyday basis. The trial court found that both parents established relationships

with the children and that a relocation of the children to another state would not be

in the children’s best interest because their father would no longer have physical

access to them on a daily basis. The trial court recognized that removing the

children from Mr. Ovide would pose an issue for the children’s emotional

development in the coming years because they had established a relationship with

their father that should be maintained. The trial court recognized Ms. Rivers’

testimony that while the educational opportunities might be better in Alabama for

the oldest child, this was not significantly outweighed by the educational

opportunities that the children could receive in Jefferson Parish, Louisiana.

Factor 3

The trial court found that although both parties had the ability to maintain a

relationship with the children, the trial court was not confident that Ms. Rivers

would be willing to enforce custodial arrangements between the minor children

and Mr. Ovide if she were allowed to relocate to Hoover. The trial court

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concluded that Ms. Rivers’ unwillingness to allow Mr. Ovide to communicate with

the children after the relocation to Alabama was indicative of her intent to not co-

parent with Mr. Ovide. Thus, this factor weighed against relocation of the

children.

Factor 4

The trial court believed the children were too young for their views to be

considered.

Factors 5, 6, 7, 9, and 11

The trial court found that factors five, six, seven, nine, and eleven did not

favor one side or the other.

Factors 8 and 10

The trial court found that these factors weighed in favor of Mr. Ovide. The

trial court recognized that Mr. Ovide financially supported the minor children and

Ms. Rivers for several years. Further, Ms. Rivers testified that she was a veteran,

and that her employment opportunities were better in Alabama. But she did not

testify whether the job she obtained could be performed remotely or whether she

had made efforts to get a job in the Greater New Orleans area. The trial court

further found that she had been unemployed for a period of time during the

relationship and subsequently. And although Ms. Rivers testified that she has the

support of family members in Alabama, this should not be a substitute for the

financial responsibility borne by Ms. Rivers and Ms. Ovide to care and provide for

their minor children.

The trial court also found that because Mr. Ovide has an established tattoo

business and financially provided for the family for several years, it was not

feasible for him to relocate to Hoover. His clientele is located in the Greater New

Orleans area.

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Factor 12

The trial court found that the distance between the respective residences of

the parties weighs in favor of denying relocation because Mr. Ovide would need to

drive approximately six hours every other weekend to pick up the children. The

trial court was also mindful that the distance may pose an even larger issue in the

future as the children become involved in extracurricular activities. The trial court

concluded that it is in the children’s best interest to continue to maintain, establish,

and foster a strong and loving relationship with both parents and both sides of the

family.

After a thorough review of the record, we cannot say that the trial court

abused its discretion in determining that relocation was not in the best interest of

the children. While a different conclusion could have been reached based on the

facts presented, the consideration on appeal is whether the trial court abused its

great discretion in arriving at its conclusion. The trial court sitting as the trier of

fact is in the best position to evaluate the demeanor of the witnesses. Oliva v.

Jones, 22-385 (La. App. 5 Cir. 3/29/23), 360 So.3d 573, 578. A trial court’s

determination in a relocation matter is entitled to great weight and will not be

overturned on appeal absent a clear showing of abuse of discretion. Gathen, 66

So.3d at 9; Duerson, 379 So.3d at 753.

For these reasons, the trial court’s judgment is affirmed.

AFFIRMED

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GREGORY OVIDE NO. 24-CA-140

VERSUS FIFTH CIRCUIT

ERICA RIVERS COURT OF APPEAL

STATE OF LOUISIANA

MOLAISON J., CONCURS WITH REASONS

I reluctantly agree with the majority’s opinion based on the required

standard of review. I write separately, however, to emphasize factors that I

believe weighed in favor of granting Ms. Rivers’ request to relocate with her

children.

Evidence in the record suggests that Ms. Rivers, a U.S. Army veteran who

sustained disabling injuries during her service, was able to significantly

maximize her employment opportunities upon relocating to Alabama. The record

further demonstrates that the parties’ three children also benefitted from a highly

rated school system and the support of Ms. Rivers’ extended family. By contrast,

Ms. Rivers testified that her life in Louisiana was of scarce employment, with

little to no assistance from Mr. Ovide in daily child care.

On the issue of whether Mr. Ovide was actually and actively involved in

raising the children, I note that he could not name any of their doctors and was

unclear about the details of taking them to school. His account of seeing the

children every Saturday differed from testimony that he saw them only every

other Saturday for a minimal amount of time.

While Mr. Ovide recognized that his children may have enjoyed a better

life in Alabama, he also made clear that he would not be inconvenienced by

having to drive any distance from the New Orleans area to visit them. This, even

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though his self-employed status, would allow him the flexibility to do so if he

chose.

I cannot disagree with the trial court’s assessment of witness credibility

based on a cold record nor with the majority’s conclusion using the abuse of

discretion standard. However, I find that the evidence presented justified

allowing Ms. Rivers to relocate with her children, which was at least equal in

weight to the evidence cited by the trial court to deny relocation.

I question whether the best interests of the children, in this case, are

indeed being served by forcing their mother to give up meaningful employment,

her family’s support, and the optimism of a fresh start in life simply so that Mr.

Ovide can be a dad for a few hours - every other weekend.

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